They both must pay until their estate is paid down as they call it. Then the spouse needing the care is taken care of, Medicaid pays. The surviving spouse gets nothing. Having paid their estate down that spouse has nothing for his/her future.
I Have This Terminal Disease,
It Moves So Slow It Is Killing Me!
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THIS BLOG IS ABOUT MY JOURNEY FROM AA TO AD.
I have survived alcoholism from which
I recovered thirty six years ago then
Alzheimer's disease with which I was
diagnosed nearly five years ago. Both
have had profound consequence. They
are associated, one leading to the other.
I write about the experience in a book
entitled From AA to AD, a Wistful Travelogue
click on the title to go to it or read more
about it in the column to the right
Thursday, August 30, 2012
What It Means As We Pull It All Together
It'll never happen to us!
Preceding this essay I have posted the following on my Blog
and my Archive:
On My Blog:
In My Archive:
o In Home Care
Program Allows AD Dementia Patients t...
(Click on any
one of the titles to go to the Blog or Archive to read it.)
The foregoing lists those essays and articles dealing with
the needs of those of us afflicted and/or affected by Dementia. The first
essays deal with what can be done on a local or community level without the
need of government or some other super authority directing and managing it.
Taking this approach there is no one to pay for it. Is up to us. I am convinced nonrtheless
that we can do it and do it to our advantage.
I have come to believe the organized groups are more a hindrance
then a help in getting the job done. If done by them it is complicated by more
cost and less effectiveness. For profit nursing home chains operated nationally
or regionally as big boxes, the kind that provide “one treatment for all kinds of Dementia and other
disabling diseases,” are done at a confiscatory costs.
Between the numbers of us who already have it, the number
getting it growing exponentially with the “Boomers” passing their 65th
year, there is not money federally or locally to foot the unrealistic charges
made for care. This forces us to the abyss of a “do it ourselves or suffer the
consequence!” What is the consequence? No action will put us on the street
homeless and helpless.
We live with too many misinterpretations about what is
available. This alone has inured us to inaction. When we are young and middle
age we work hard to raise and educate our families, we work at what we have
become, and above all we work and save for retirement. Having done this we
relax trusting in Medicare and Medicaid in the event things run short. As we
reach the age of retirement we then learn of the delusions we have had
concerning Medicare and Medicaid.
No one expects they will become disabled and too many do not
get long term care insurance. They don’t because they believe Medicare will pay
for it. If Medicare does not then Medicaid will.
The worst misperception is who pays when the need of care
occurs. Medicare will not. In most instances Medicaid will not. Unless you are
within the poverty line as drawn by Federal and/or State Government, Medicaid
will not pay until you pay out your assets sufficient to take you to the
poverty level. Another hooker in this is both spouses are jointly obligated to
pay out of to the poverty level before one of them can qualify for Medicaid
payment.
This is great for many, but… Medicaid is shaky at best and
subject to open attack in many states. This puts its future in doubt.
They both must pay until their estate is paid down as they call it. Then the spouse needing the care is taken care of, Medicaid pays. The surviving spouse gets nothing. Having paid their estate down that spouse has nothing for his/her future.
Too few know this. I was among those who were surprised by
this. I was a practicing lawyer for 43 years. Not practicing in the area of
elder law this was something I just didn’t know. Like so many others I believed
my health would keep me until I croaked for other reasons. Other reasons?
You bet “Other Reasons” We all continue to suffer the teen
age disease known as “It always happens to the other guy, not me!”
I hope I have detailed this material with some degree of
clarity. The situation is dire. It is a cancer that will grow unless we take the
cure into our own hands!
Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Eligibility for Medicaid
I have posted three articles in my Archive under the following two titles.
Eligibility for Medicaid
It speaks for itself as it discusses eligibility generally and as far as I can tell it is correct in all of its aspects
. A
Medicaid applicant is allowed to retain a small amount of countable assets, but
the amount varies from state to state. However, most states set a $2,000 asset
limit.
Countable assets
include (but are not limited to):
� Savings
and checking accounts
� Stocks
� Bonds
� Certificates
of deposit
� Treasury
bills
� Savings
bonds
� Investment
property and vacation homes
� Second
vehicles
� Livestock
� Individual
retirement accounts
� 401(k)
accounts
� Mutual
funds
� Precious
metals and coins
� Whole
life insurance (above a certain surrender value, often $1,500)
� Home
equity if it is over $500,000 or at the state's option $750,000 (equity is
noncountable if you, your spouse, or your minor, blind, or disabled child lives
there)
To be eligible for Medicaid, most
states provide that you may not have more than $2,000 of countable assets if
you're single. For a married couple living together (applying for benefits at
the same time), the limit is usually $3,000 of countable assets. Because
spouses are treated as individuals one month after either of them enters a
nursing home, however, the $2,000 limit will usually apply.
A nursing home resident, therefore,
may usually keep $2,000 in countable assets. If you have more than that, the
additional amount must be spent down on nursing home bills until you reach the
allowable level.
******Tip: If
you don't know your state's countable asset allowance figur
e, be sure to call
your state Medicaid office.
Spouse is given some
assets prior to any spend-down
When a spouse
enters a nursing home and applies for Medicaid, the couple's assets must be
pooled together and totaled to determine what portion the noninstitutionalized
("at-home") spouse may keep. This is called the spousal resource
allowance. Each year, the federal government sets a minimum and maximum asset
amount for the community spouse; the states set their own parameters within the
federal limits.
In
2007, under federal guidelines, the at-home spouse could receive one-half of
the family assets or a minimum of $20,328 (whichever is larger), but no more
than $101,640.
After the spousal
resource allowance has been determined by the state, the Medicaid applicant
must transfer assets representing the amount of the spousal resource allowance
to the community spouse within 90 days (depending on the state) of the state's
determination of eligibility for Medicaid.
Tip: Bear in mind that
a married couple's assets will be pooled together--it makes no difference, for
example, whether the source of the asset can be traced back to one spouse or
the other (e.g., inherited funds, a bank account established by one spouse
prior to the marriage, or the like).
Exempt
assets do not affect your Medicaid eligibility
Exempt assets are
assets that do not affect your Medicaid eligibility. Under federal guidelines,
each state composes a list of exempt assets, which include the following:
� Principal
home, regardless of value (so long as you, your spouse, or your minor,
disabled, or blind child resides there)
� Household
furnishings, jewelry, and personal effects (though some states limit these
items)
� Burial
funds of approximately $1,500, depending on the state
� Burial
plots for the applicant and immediate members of family
� Prepaid,
noncancelable burial contracts
� One
automobile (for use by you and your family)
� Term
life insurance policies
� Cash
value of life insurance policies, provided the face value does not exceed
$1,500
Example(s): If
Medicaid applicant George and his wife, Martha, own $24,000 of countable
assets, a principal home, one car, and a term life insurance policy of
$300,000, then only George's portion of the $24,000 of countable assets can be
reached by the state during the couple's lifetime; the other assets will be
exempt. At George's death, however, state authorities could seek reimbursement
for Medicaid payments under a theory of estate recovery.
Simply stated,
Medicaid authorities may be granted a lien against the home, collectible after
the death of the Medicaid recipient (and the death of his or her spouse or
other specified relatives living in the home). For more information, see
Medicaid Liens and Estate Recoveries.
Inaccessible
assets will not be counted
As
with exempt assets, the state will not consider inaccessible assets when
determining your Medicaid eligibility. These assets are otherwise countable
ones that have been made unavailable to you and, hence, unavailable to
Medicaid. You can make assets unavailable by giving them away or by holding
them in certain trusts. Although a proper transfer of assets will preserve
these assets for your loved ones, the transfer may also create a period of
ineligibility before you can collect Medicaid benefits. It is vital, therefore,
to become familiar with the transfer rules. For details, see Look-Back Period
for Medicaid.
Discusses specifics of Minnesota. Its important part I quote as follows at it regards assets:
The Minnesota Medicaid rules look at both spouses’ assets as one, regardless of whose name is on the asset. One of the biggest points of confusion for families is that they believe assets owned in one spouses name only should not affect the other spouse. Like I mentioned, this is not how the Minnesota Medicaid department rules look at it.
In essence, all the assets are dumped into one bucket and labeled as joint assets on the outside of the bucket.
The well spouse is then permitted to reach into the bucket of assets and begin pulling out assets for their use only.
For example, Minnesota Medicaid places assets in 3 categories and they are as follows:
1. Exempt Assets: $3000 in cash, the primary home, 1 car, personal property, funeral/burial contracts, IRA’s (in most states protected if in well spouse’s name)up to $1500 in cash value life insurance
2. Unavailable Assets: an interest in someone’s estate or real estate that cannot be sold
3. Countable Assets: cash, CD’s, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, IRA’s, 401(k), 403(b), tax-deferred annuities, 2nd car, buildings or land owned.
So looking at the list above, the well spouse is allowed to begin pulling assets out of the bucket like: the primary home and 1 car. However, Minnesota Medicaid rules only allow the well spouse to pull out a limited amount of assets besides the house and car and that limit is approximately 50 % of the total assets up to $109,500.
As you can see, it would be easy for most families to reach the $109,500 upper limit of assets very easily and it's obvious that the amount of assets you have directly affects your ability to qualify for full Minnesota Medicaid benefits.
Without knowing the rules and applying proper asset protection strategies, the well spouse would be forced to spend down all remaining assets greater than $109,500.
The second and third Articles posted under the title:
Are correct Read them to get their gist. they detail Minnesota's application of the foregoing
In my next Blob post I will comment on it all.
Sunday, August 26, 2012
Why Medicaid expansion is key part of health reform
Starting with the essay entitled Aging and Care. Where to
take it and why, which I posted on August 12, I have been writing about
the impossibility of surviving senior-hood without overwhelming wear and tear
on us. In between Government which is gridlocked by its cantankerousness, the
economy bought and paid for by the influence of the Drug, Healthcare, and the Wallstreet
complex, every step that might be taken is barred to us unless it is a step we
take ourselves.
The foregoing exists making
it difficult to impossible to improve our lot. The cap to all of this making it
more than impossible is the attitude of too many of the people who refuse to
support what might help them. They refuse for too many reasons to list here.
Some of them are good reasons, others are insane.
After “Aging and Care” my first post, I posted 3 more essays, namely:
Plus this post which includes
the article posted in my archive entitled:
Why
Medicaid expansion is key part of health reform
Read the posted article then
read it again. Read it as often as you need to and then go directly to your
bathroom and vomit!
This article undertakes to tell
everything you need to understand Medicaid. At the same time it doesn’t tell
you a thing. This is not the fault of the article it is the fault of the act
itself. Medicaid best exemplifies all the humor about the end product of
committee action.
The article begins with this
statement:
The biggest misperception
is that Medicaid is a universal health care program for all poor people. That's
just not true. Many people with little to no income do not qualify for
Medicaid.
Yes, all children up to
100% of the poverty line, and children under 6 up to 133% of poverty line, are
covered. Pregnant women up to 133% of the poverty line are covered as well. So
are elderly and disabled Americans who qualify for Social Security's Supplemental Security Income. But there's where things start to break down.
Did you know this? I did not!
Did you know the following?
Parents are covered, but only to 1996 welfare levels. This keeps a
lot of parents, even those who are very poor, from qualifying for Medicaid.
Two parents and a child living in Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana,
Louisiana or Texas with an income of $4,850 a year actually earn too much to qualify for traditional Medicaid. And
if you're not a parent, then things are even worse.
In most states, if you have no children, you can't qualify for
Medicaid no matter how little you make. In most states, even if you make no money
at all, there's no Medicaid for you
When the House and the
Senate were debating how to cover all of the uninsured,..they disagreed Both
bodies agree that those making more than 133% of the poverty line should get
private insurance in the exchanges, albeit with subsidies for those making less
than 400% of the poverty line. But what to do with those making less than 133%
of the poverty line? The Democrats favored the idea of expanding Medicaid, as
Medicaid is cheaper than private insurance. In fact, so much so that the House
pushed to raise the eligibility for Medicaid for all Americans to 133% of the
poverty line, above the Senate's suggested 100%, as it made the entire
Affordable Care Act cheaper.
This is a radical change
for Medicaid. It will finally be the fully universal safety net that many
believe it already is. All Americans, regardless of age and parental status,
will qualify if they are poor.
This won't be cheap, of
course. States currently are on the hook for 50% to 75% of all Medicaid costs.
Asking them to cover the many millions of newly eligible recipients would be
too much for many to bear. Therefore, the federal government decided it would
pay for the full cost of the expansion when it begins in 2014.
There are two problems,
though. The first is that the federal portion decreases to 90% by 2020. That
may still sound like a great deal, but even that 10% is a lot of money, and
many states fear they won't have it. The second is that the individual mandate
and Affordable Care Act in general will probably bring forward a lot of people
who already qualified for Medicaid and just never signed up.
The federal government
won't pay for them, and a lot of states fear this expense. They feared it so
much that they brought a case against the expansion that made it all the way to
the Supreme Court.
The court decided in the
states' favor. The health care law can ask states to expand Medicaid and offer
them extra money if they will agree to the expansion. The law can even refuse
states the extra money if they refuse to expand the program. But what the law
can't do is threaten states with removal of their traditional Medicaid money if
they won't expand.
Many will not be
penalized by the mandate because they make too little (PDF), but that will still leave them
without health insurance. In essence, without the Medicaid expansion, millions
of the poorest among us will still be uninsured, with few options to rectify
the situation.
Before we know anything we
need to know anything more we need to know the poverty line which I find to be
government most confusing secret.
I cite the foregoing from the
article to both pinpoint the inequity and the confusion. To know what we have
in terms of benefit you need to pick your state and know its rules.
Then you have to know your
financial circumstances.
For this you need to know what
the poverty line is in your state, how the federal rule is applied to determine
that level.
This will be the subject of
my next post.
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